Orbit file timeout (March 2021)

Hello !

I still have the same error even after updating S1TBX 8.0.3…

Error: [NodeId: Apply-Orbit-File] No valid orbit file found for 22-APR-2021 05:49:43.000000
Orbit files may be downloaded from qc.sentinel1.eo.esa.int/ or aux.sentinel1.eo.esa.int/
and placed in /home/appuser/.snap/auxdata/Orbits/Sentinel-1/POEORB/S1A/2021/04

Snap has been installed in a Docker using :

RUN wget https://download.esa.int/step/snap/8.0/installers/esa-snap_sentinel_unix_8_0.sh &&
chmod +x esa-snap_sentinel_unix_8_0.sh &&
./esa-snap_sentinel_unix_8_0.sh -q &&
ln -s /usr/local/snap/bin/gpt /usr/bin/gpt &&
sed -i -e ‘s/-Xmx1G/-Xmx16G/g’ /usr/local/snap/bin/gpt.vmoptions
RUN snap --nosplash --nogui --modules --update-all

Does anyone have a workaround for this ?

Many thanks for your help,

Adrien Lauwers

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sorry dear ABraun, in snap v_6 can we update to S1TBX 8.0.3?

no, versions (e.g. 6, 7 or 8) have to be downloaded and installed. Only smaller updates within these (e.g. 8.0.1 to 8.0.3) can be performed from within SNAP.

Hi @j08lue,
have you found a solution for this? I’m experiencing the same issue.
I have installed the last update of SNAP (8.0.3) as suggested by @ABraun but this message error appears:

WARNING: org.esa.s1tbx.sar.gpf.orbits.ApplyOrbitFileOp: ApplyOrbit ignoring error and continuing: java.io.IOException: No valid orbit file found for 05-APR-2021 18:29:46.000000

Has some developer (@marpet @jun_lu ) any idea about this issue?
Thank you in advance,
S. Savastano

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have you also deleted the orbit error in the user directory as suggested in the FAQs?

Hi @ABraun,
thank you always for your support and guidance.
I haven’t found any suggestions about that in the FAQs. Could you kindly address me to that?
In the meantime, just to clarify my problem:

  • If I delete the folder C:\Users\Salvatore.snap\auxdata\Orbits\Sentinel-1\RESORB\S1A\2021\04\ where is contained the orbit file related to my scene, this error message comes out
    <<WARNING: org.esa.s1tbx.sar.gpf.orbits.ApplyOrbitFileOp: ApplyOrbit ignoring error and continuing: java.io.IOException: No valid orbit file found for 05-APR-2021 18:29:46.000000>>

  • If I download manually from the serve https://scihub.copernicus.eu/gnss/#/home the file S1A_OPER_AUX_RESORB_OPOD_20210405T203113_V20210405T163812_20210405T195542.EOF related to my scene, it seems to work even if it gives this other message
    <<WARNING: org.esa.s1tbx.sar.gpf.orbits.ApplyOrbitFileOp: Using Sentinel Restituted C:\Users\Salvatore.snap\auxdata\Orbits\Sentinel-1\RESORB\S1A\2021\04\S1A_OPER_AUX_RESORB_OPOD_20210405T203113_V20210405T163812_20210405T195542.EOF instead>>

So, it seems to have a problem to find the right orbit file and to download it.

Do you have some suggestions for this?
Thank you in advance.

S. Savastano

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sorry for being imprecise. I meant the folder you had already deleted.

It is strange that SNAP does not find orbit files for April 2021, because these should be available in the meanwhile (only recent acquisitions don’t have orbit files provided).
Manually downloading them is a work around, but I agree that SNAP should be able to do this automatically. Let’s wait for a response of the developers.

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thanks… So due to the orbit file timeout connection error, we cant use snap version of 6 or 7?

no, the old versions point to the expired location of the orbit files and actually it should be fixed with version 8.0.3, but there seem to remain problems in special cases (I can’t reproduce them).

thanks :pray: :pray:

After several attempts, I notice that the “Apply Orbit File” step is working properly with the gpt command line on my Windows environment but it isn’t working on my Linux environment.

SNAP has been updated to 8.0.3 using the GUI on Windows, while it has been updated using the command line snap --nosplash --nogui --modules --update-all on Linux. Maybe SNAP has not been updated properly on Linux ? I got strange “null” logs a the end of the update :

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Is there a way to check which version of s1tbx is used in command line ?

Btw, @ABraun I can provide you a Dockerfile that shows how SNAP is installed and updated, and how the processing step is called so that you can easily reproduce it.

Many thanks for your help,

Adrien Lauwers

There is no nice way.
You can call
snap --nosplash --nogui --modules --list
and then look for the entry org.esa.s1tbx.s1tbx.kit

Thank you @marpet

org.esa.s1tbx.s1tbx.kit is set to 8.0.3 so it has been sucessfully updated, but the “Aply Orbit File” step still does not work…

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I’m so sorry for bothering you again. after updating to the 8.0.3 version…the problem of downloading orbit files for sar images was solved but it has been stuck in the splitting step without any progress or warning!!

Let’s not mix the topics too much, please.

Let’s not discuss this in this thread but since you’ve updated from SNAP 6 to 8 you will need to rebuild your graphs with 8. Some operators and their parameters have changed and you cannot expect the old graphs to run flawlessly or at all.

thanks, but how can I update snap 2 stamps graphs? I don’t use snap GUI so I need to use snap stamps scripts but when I upgrade the version of snap from 6 to 8 I get into this trouble

you are right, but I need to use snap2stamps scripts …when I used the snap version of 6 everything was ok, but due to the orbit file downloads problem I must upgrade the version of snap…is there any solution for working snap2stapm based on snap v8 graphs?

Dear @ABraun,
while we are waiting for help from developers, I have an update about this issue.
Thinking of a possible problem with my study area, I have changed the location and I have downloaded another image from Copernicus hub.
This is the image S1A_IW_GRDH_1SDV_20210421T175740_20210421T175805_037552_046DBA_D391
(just in case you have time and you want to try by yourself the issue).
Now trying to “Apply Orbit file” using the gpt, it gives the same error as previously and no orbit file is downloaded in the designated folder
C:\Users\Salvatore.snap\auxdata\Orbits\Sentinel-1\RESORB\S1A\2021\04.

On the contrary, if I try to run the Apply Orbit file through the GUI of SNAP, it works and the previous folder is populated with these 2 files:

  • S1A_OPER_AUX_RESORB_OPOD_20210421T201237_V20210421T160518_20210421T192248.EOF (EOF file)
  • S1A_OPER_AUX_RESORB_OPOD_20210421T201237_V20210421T160518_20210421T192248.EOF (zip file)

So from my understanding, there is a problem with the gpt about the orbit file.
Moreover, if I use an older file (2018) related to the same scene, gpt works fine and in that case, I get a POERB orbit file, as you can see below:

Any suggestions and guidance are warmly welcomed.
Thank you,
S. Savastano

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snap2stamps is a user tool and was developed in 2018. SNAP evolved since then and things have changed, for example the location of SRTM 3Sec data and also the orbit files. SNAP was updated to adapt to these changes and both can be accessed. Yet it was reported, that especially processes started with gpt and from snappy have not integrated these changes, and accordingly, cannot access the new location of the orbit files. So we can fix this on the SNAP side but we can not provide support for external tools.

@jun_lu @lveci Please check why snappy and gpt cannot access the orbit files in so many cases.
@mengdahl Is there something else we can do about this? Quite some time has passed since March and, understandably, users become upset.

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